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Apologist
08-14-2006, 07:06 PM
Original thread here. (http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30999&page=1&pp=15)
Just from reading the topic, a lot of you reading will most likely be thinking. "That guy is a racist!" That is precisely what this thread is about: Anti Semitism and racism.
Is anti Semitism racism? Not by strict definition of the term. Jews aren't a race, as many have claimed, nor are they a religion (as many Jews claim.) In fact, This particular Jew Source (jeqfaq.org)says that a Jew is "any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism." The Jew here even adds a special note: "being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do."
Strictly speaking, being a Jew has nothing to do with genetics. If one's father is a Jew, but the father was non practicing, and the child is raised a Christian, that child is not technically a Jew in the eyes of Orthodox Judaism. Also strictly speaking, being a Jew has nothing to do with belief. I can hold to the faith of Abraham and Moses (Pre Christ), and still be considered a Gentile by Orthodox Judaism.
Very strictly speaking, Judaism is a nation. The Jew adds: "In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship."
By strict definition, a Jew is one who has a claim to Israel. (The Jew source adds that over half of all Israelis claim to be secular.)
That said, I hereby conclude: Jew is a nationality.
Having concluded that, lemme bring up a few things.
1) People commonly claim to hate the French. The French are wussies.
2) People were once anti Soviet. They were commies.
3) People are now very strongly anti North Korean and China. They are commies....and (may?) have nukes.
4) People may be very anti Cuban. (Castro is an ebil dictator..etc etc etc.)
5) People may be very Middle Eastern. (Ebil dictators, terrorists, etc.)
And all of this is fine and dandy in today's world. Yet, when I say "Down with Jews!" I get banned from most forums, and get called a racist by almost anyone listening. Why?
Nationally speaking, there are plenty of reasons not to like Jews.
A) Rejection of Christ.
B) Persecution of the early Christians.
C) Riots against the Romans.
D) Infiltration of international media and economy.
E) International leftist propoganda campaigns.
F) Oppression of the Arabs.
G) Drainage of international resources. (I once heard that 50 million American dollars go to Israel every year.)
There are plenty more reasons than that to despise Jews. That said, let anyone who doubts D and E see this site. (http://stsimonoftrent.com/).
The former head of the World Jewish Congress, Nahum Goldmann, himself said this:
"I hardly exaggerate. Jewish life consists of two elements: Extracting money and protesting."
So what's the deal? Why is despising the Chinese OK, but hatred of Jewry considered bad?
Frankly, I think that Jewry is much more sinister than the Chinese. The Chinese pose an external threat. The Jews are trying to corrupt us from the inside out.
Just from reading the topic, a lot of you reading will most likely be thinking. "That guy is a racist!" That is precisely what this thread is about: Anti Semitism and racism.
Is anti Semitism racism? Not by strict definition of the term. Jews aren't a race, as many have claimed, nor are they a religion (as many Jews claim.) In fact, This particular Jew Source (jeqfaq.org)says that a Jew is "any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism." The Jew here even adds a special note: "being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do."
Strictly speaking, being a Jew has nothing to do with genetics. If one's father is a Jew, but the father was non practicing, and the child is raised a Christian, that child is not technically a Jew in the eyes of Orthodox Judaism. Also strictly speaking, being a Jew has nothing to do with belief. I can hold to the faith of Abraham and Moses (Pre Christ), and still be considered a Gentile by Orthodox Judaism.
Very strictly speaking, Judaism is a nation. The Jew adds: "In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship."
By strict definition, a Jew is one who has a claim to Israel. (The Jew source adds that over half of all Israelis claim to be secular.)
That said, I hereby conclude: Jew is a nationality.
Having concluded that, lemme bring up a few things.
1) People commonly claim to hate the French. The French are wussies.
2) People were once anti Soviet. They were commies.
3) People are now very strongly anti North Korean and China. They are commies....and (may?) have nukes.
4) People may be very anti Cuban. (Castro is an ebil dictator..etc etc etc.)
5) People may be very Middle Eastern. (Ebil dictators, terrorists, etc.)
And all of this is fine and dandy in today's world. Yet, when I say "Down with Jews!" I get banned from most forums, and get called a racist by almost anyone listening. Why?
Nationally speaking, there are plenty of reasons not to like Jews.
A) Rejection of Christ.
B) Persecution of the early Christians.
C) Riots against the Romans.
D) Infiltration of international media and economy.
E) International leftist propoganda campaigns.
F) Oppression of the Arabs.
G) Drainage of international resources. (I once heard that 50 million American dollars go to Israel every year.)
There are plenty more reasons than that to despise Jews. That said, let anyone who doubts D and E see this site. (http://stsimonoftrent.com/).
The former head of the World Jewish Congress, Nahum Goldmann, himself said this:
"I hardly exaggerate. Jewish life consists of two elements: Extracting money and protesting."
So what's the deal? Why is despising the Chinese OK, but hatred of Jewry considered bad?
Frankly, I think that Jewry is much more sinister than the Chinese. The Chinese pose an external threat. The Jews are trying to corrupt us from the inside out.
Commander
08-14-2006, 07:14 PM
Beats me why you would be banned? Jews are such level headed open minded people, & can always take constructive criticism. :confused: :rofl:
Apologist
08-14-2006, 07:15 PM
Beats me why you would be banned? Jews are such level headed open minded people, & can always take constructive criticism. :confused: :rofl:
Did you read through the actual thread there? <_< :viking:
Did you read through the actual thread there? <_< :viking:
08-14-2006, 07:25 PM
Way more than $50 Million a year goes to Israel, it's above $4 billion.
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
Northern_Paladin
08-14-2006, 07:33 PM
Way more than $50 Million a year goes to Israel, it's above $4 billion.
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
Lenin is dead. They say Stalin died 55 years ago. If he didn't die he would have lead a War against America and Western Europe. That is of course just a rumor. :p
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
Lenin is dead. They say Stalin died 55 years ago. If he didn't die he would have lead a War against America and Western Europe. That is of course just a rumor. :p
Apologist
08-14-2006, 07:35 PM
Way more than $50 Million a year goes to Israel, it's above $4 billion.
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
What is that and how would it help me?
That said, cool thread. Use tor proxy (http://tor.eff.org/) and troll that forum mercilessly.
What is that and how would it help me?
08-14-2006, 08:09 PM
What is that and how would it help me?
It allows you to use other IP#s so you can rejoin the forum without being detected.
It allows you to use other IP#s so you can rejoin the forum without being detected.
Northern_Paladin
08-14-2006, 08:10 PM
It allows you to use other IP#s so you can rejoin the forum without being detected.
How do you Communists from Africa even afford computers.:google: :rofl: I will air lift you five apple computers. Pay me 100 dollars. Thank you. Is this another Nigerian oil scam?
How do you Communists from Africa even afford computers.:google: :rofl: I will air lift you five apple computers. Pay me 100 dollars. Thank you. Is this another Nigerian oil scam?
Apologist
08-14-2006, 08:10 PM
It allows you to use other IP#s so you can rejoin the forum without being detected.
Bah. Them guys were lame anyway.
Bah. Them guys were lame anyway.
Northern_Paladin
08-14-2006, 08:15 PM
Bah. Them guys were lame anyway.
Your religious faith is inspiring to say the least. I was former a Catholic than I converted to Protestantism and now I'm a Catholic again because of your Religious sayings and various thelogical deductions.
Your religious faith is inspiring to say the least. I was former a Catholic than I converted to Protestantism and now I'm a Catholic again because of your Religious sayings and various thelogical deductions.
Apologist
08-14-2006, 08:22 PM
Your religious faith is inspiring to say the least. I was former a Catholic than I converted to Protestantism and now I'm a Catholic again because of your Religious sayings and various thelogical deductions.
Thank you. That's very kind of you.
Thank you. That's very kind of you.
Northern_Paladin
08-14-2006, 08:34 PM
Thank you. That's very kind of you.
Apologist you are modest and a fine gentleman of American or was it Dutch-Scottish? I can only attribute this to your up bringing in the Catholic Church. Which has taught you impeccable manners and a certain social grace that is hard not to feel.;)
Apologist you are modest and a fine gentleman of American or was it Dutch-Scottish? I can only attribute this to your up bringing in the Catholic Church. Which has taught you impeccable manners and a certain social grace that is hard not to feel.;)
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