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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	pal joey - December 15th, 2010, 09:08 AM pal joey until they ban him we have to deal with him and there is no way we are going to be able to ignore him thanks to Town Heretic for the idea so what do you think about joey? finally here is the attention that he deserves a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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SovereigntyIsGods Not a Dispensationalist Posts: 1,920 Posts Per Day: 7.78 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Greenwood, AR Rep Power: 5398 Protestant Christian Right Winger Slogan/motto: "If ever it should come to pass, That sheep of Christ might fall away, My fickle, feeble soul, alas! Would fall a thousand times a day." - Charles H. Spurgeon Reputation:

December 15th, 2010, 09:18 AM He likes repeat his thoughts over and over and over again. I appears is if his theology is based solely on his own logic. His posts are humorous though. "God foreknows nothing by contingency, but that he foresees, purposes, and does all things according to his immutable, eternal and infallible will. By this thunderbolt, "free will" is thrown prostrate and utterly dashed to pieces. Those therefore, who would assert "free will," must either deny this thunderbolt, or pretend not to see it, or push it from them." -Martin Luther "The Church has surrendered her once lofty concept of God and has substituted for it one so low, so ignoble, as to be utterly unworthy of thinking, worshiping men. This she has not done deliberately, but little by little and without her knowledge; and her very unawareness only makes her situation all the more tragic." -A.W. Tozer "He that has doctrinal knowledge and speculation only, without affection, never is engaged in the business of religion." -Jonathan Edwards

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taikoo BANNED Posts: 5,957 Posts Per Day: 18.25 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: corn belt Rep Power: 0 Atheist More right than left Slogan/motto: the sooner all the animals are extinct, the sooner we will know where all their money is hidden Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 09:26 AM got tired of his 3-yr-old jumping up and down saying look at meeee look at meee! stuff, so i put him on ig. He may have something to say, hope so; but he is spreading himself way too thin.

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Alexandros Veteran Posts: 340 Posts Per Day: 0.43 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Rep Power: 5712 Atheist Pinko Commie Slogan/motto: "You're going to hell." - Lighthouse Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 04:16 PM He seems alright if a bit disjointed, I wonder if he's autistic... not his fault, no reason to gang up on him. "You know what they say: women are from Omicron Persei 7, men are from Omicron Persei 9."

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Ktoyou NO BALONEY Posts: 12,525 Posts Per Day: 8.55 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta and Saint Louis Rep Power: 350792 Protestant Christian Right Winger Slogan/motto: The falcon cannot see the falconer Who me? What do I know? Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 04:21 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Alexandros He seems alright if a bit disjointed, I wonder if he's autistic... not his fault, no reason to gang up on him. No, he not autistic or artistic, for that matter, he is a garden variety goofball, not even a fist rate one. So, what?

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aSeattleConserv BANNED Posts: 2,496 Posts Per Day: 8.33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Rep Power: 0 Christian Right Wing Zealot Slogan/motto: "Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.” - I Corinthians 16:13 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation:

December 15th, 2010, 04:59 PM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom pal joey until they ban him we have to deal with him and there is no way we are going to be able to ignore him thanks to Town Heretic for the idea so what do you think about joey? finally here is the attention that he deserves Why don't you get together with your pal Granite and exchange ideas. He has a great success rate when it comes to getting people banned.

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Alexandros Veteran Posts: 340 Posts Per Day: 0.43 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Rep Power: 5712 Atheist Pinko Commie Slogan/motto: "You're going to hell." - Lighthouse Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 05:08 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Ktoyou No, he not autistic or artistic, for that matter, he is a garden variety goofball, not even a fist rate one. Terrorizing all the newbies still, ktoyou? "You know what they say: women are from Omicron Persei 7, men are from Omicron Persei 9."

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Ktoyou NO BALONEY Posts: 12,525 Posts Per Day: 8.55 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta and Saint Louis Rep Power: 350792 Protestant Christian Right Winger Slogan/motto: The falcon cannot see the falconer Who me? What do I know? Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 05:18 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Alexandros Terrorizing all the newbies still, ktoyou? No, not as much, hate to admit it, but it is true, I have slowed down. You are a woman right? So, what?

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 05:35 PM he's a complete and utter moron,a poster child for the pro choice movement if there ever was one

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glassjester Over 750 post club Posts: 788 Posts Per Day: 0.46 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx, NY Rep Power: 3749 Catholic More right than left Slogan/motto: The Church was not founded on the Bible. The Bible was assembled by the Church. Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 05:39 PM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk he's a complete and utter moron,a poster child for the pro choice movement if there ever was one Harsh. I enjoyed the "Is God Outside of Time" thread. Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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Alexandros Veteran Posts: 340 Posts Per Day: 0.43 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Rep Power: 5712 Atheist Pinko Commie Slogan/motto: "You're going to hell." - Lighthouse Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 05:47 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Ktoyou No, not as much, hate to admit it, but it is true, I have slowed down. You are a woman right? I haven't been a man since 1982. "You know what they say: women are from Omicron Persei 7, men are from Omicron Persei 9."

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Town Heretic Jack and Co. Posts: 15,164 Posts Per Day: 11.14 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Within a whisper of rivers... Rep Power: 446022 Christian More left than right Slogan/motto: "Great lunch! Who's up for a swim?" Famous Last Words, Vol. 12 Blog Entries: 9 Reputation:

December 15th, 2010, 06:36 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Alexandros I haven't been a man since 1982. That when you moved to Canada? JA has potential, but he has to learn a little restraint...maybe keep the new threads under a hundred or so a day, try posting more than a sentence at a time...that sort of thing. "So finally we have something in common, neither of us appearing to understand what you mean." zoo:

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Persephone66 Red as blood, Vague as the sky Posts: 6,379 Posts Per Day: 5.08 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Eye of Terror Rep Power: 53797 Atheist More right than left Slogan/motto: Can't you leave this where you left integrity behind? Blog Entries: 5 Reputation:	December 15th, 2010, 06:55 PM He's not so bad. He's much better for conversation than certain other people here that really do need to be banned. I won't feed your guilt. I won't feed your greed. I won't feed your anger. Who's laughing now? I:Scintilla ~ Ammunition

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.72 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:

December 16th, 2010, 12:24 AM Joey Arnold is a very interesting person. I know that Joey Arnold is not exactly happy with his life right now. He still dreams of being the next Michael Jackson. Joey Arnold was born autism but his mother had the patience to get him through home school. Doctors never thought he would pass the sixth grade since he was mentally challenged (back then we call that plainly retarded) but he rose pass three years of Bible College, a year long mission trip in Hawaii, five years of youth camp counseling summers, winters. (I like talking in third-person) I am very scared of being banned. I really want to talk to Knight about this before it's too late. I was planning on editing all of my posts later. I do apologize but some of you may never forgive me. I have a lot to say and am already spread too thin due to long-term potential goals. Joey Arnold 503.367.4695 That is my real cell phone number but people rarely calls me. But I put it out there because I want to be available to people. My number has been publicly online for years now. I am not scared. Last edited by JoeyArnold; December 18th, 2010 at 11:28 PM.

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 16th, 2010, 12:51 AM you do seem to have a few friends here and don't worry about the others a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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Dena Jewish Conversion Student Posts: 3,064 Posts Per Day: 2.86 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ohio Rep Power: 28267 Other More left than right Slogan/motto: When you love kindness you become the Image of God - Rabbi Shlomo Wolbe Reputation:

December 16th, 2010, 02:13 AM Joey, is that your real phone number? If so, you need to remove that right now. It's way too dangerous to be putting your number out on a public forum, okay? Edit: Is it just skype? I don't think I'd put that out here either. A man stood before God one day, his heart breaking from the pain and injustice in the world. "Dear God," he cried, "Look at all the suffering, the anguish, the pain and distress in your world!! Why don't you send help?" God replied: I did send help. I sent you.

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Dena Jewish Conversion Student Posts: 3,064 Posts Per Day: 2.86 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ohio Rep Power: 28267 Other More left than right Slogan/motto: When you love kindness you become the Image of God - Rabbi Shlomo Wolbe Reputation:

December 16th, 2010, 02:17 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk he's a complete and utter moron,a poster child for the pro choice movement if there ever was one Uh...that was totally out of line. A man stood before God one day, his heart breaking from the pain and injustice in the world. "Dear God," he cried, "Look at all the suffering, the anguish, the pain and distress in your world!! Why don't you send help?" God replied: I did send help. I sent you.

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 16th, 2010, 04:35 AM somebody got to joey there was a significant reduction in number of posts a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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Tyrathca nosce te ipsum Posts: 2,003 Posts Per Day: 2.39 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Rep Power: 11185 Atheist More left than right Slogan/motto: "Think about how stupid the average person is; now realize half of them are dumber than that" Reputation:	December 16th, 2010, 05:10 AM When you're averaging 77 ppd after only a few days even going to sleep is likely to cause a significant drop in your average. Unless he sleep posts.... Which would be awesome....

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 16th, 2010, 05:15 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Tyrathca When you're averaging 77 ppd after only a few days even going to sleep is likely to cause a significant drop in your average. Unless he sleep posts.... Which would be awesome.... you have to look at it the same time each day yesterday it was 80 so this is a good sign a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.72 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 01:09 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom somebody got to joey there was a significant reduction in number of posts Either you did, somebody did, everybody did, or all of this is irrelevant. I am not too sure if life is this simply to simply comment on it with comments like these.

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 01:57 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Dena Uh...that was totally out of line. it was a joke,except the moron comment

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:03 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk it was a joke,except the moron comment I didn't think it was funny a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:04 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Either you did, somebody did, everybody did, or all of this is irrelevant. I am not too sure if life is this simply to simply comment on it with comments like these. it looks like you are listening and that is a good thing a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.72 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:12 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom it looks like you are listening and that is a good thing My course of action and destiny was not exactly altered or changed or twisted to the better or worse. But then again, all comments towards me is always appreciated nevertheless.

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:15 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom I didn't think it was funny lighten up,get a sense of humor. next time i'll be sure to make a catholic priest/little boy joke just for you

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.72 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:17 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk lighten up,get a sense of humor Truth hides behind humor.

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:18 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Truth hides behind humor. i agree

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:23 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk i agree and that is why you are not funny a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.72 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:27 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom and that is why you are not funny Truth hides behind humor. But whether one is funny or not is another story or besides this point. But it also depends on motives. One can appear humorous while lacking care. One can look like a comedian and really be demeaning. It really depends on the person and what they are doing.

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:31 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom and that is why you are not funny its alright,you're funny enough for all of us

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:34 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk its alright,you're funny enough for all of us it is hard for an angry person to be funny a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:34 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk its alright,you're funny enough for all of us Do I smell sarcasm? And is sarcasm a sin or is it a form of lying or deceiving?

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:36 AM LOL chrys i know you're angry,it shows buddy!

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:36 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Do I smell sarcasm? And is sarcasm a sin or is it a form of lying or deceiving? I do agree that it smells a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 02:39 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Do I smell sarcasm? And is sarcasm a sin or is it a form of lying or deceiving? its just the bronze age religion you're smelling,the corpse is rotten and needs to be buried.

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Town Heretic Jack and Co. Posts: 15,164 Posts Per Day: 11.14 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Within a whisper of rivers... Rep Power: 446022 Christian More left than right Slogan/motto: "Great lunch! Who's up for a swim?" Famous Last Words, Vol. 12 Blog Entries: 9 Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 07:14 AM Quote: Originally Posted by horiturk its just the bronze age religion you're smelling,the corpse is rotten and needs to be buried. 'Cause everyone knows that gravity was invented by Newton. It'll come to you. "So finally we have something in common, neither of us appearing to understand what you mean." zoo:

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TomO Deal With It. Posts: 11,187 Posts Per Day: 5.87 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Between the Clowns and the Jokers Rep Power: 287978 Christian Right Winger Slogan/motto: Don't look back; something might be gaining on you. Reputation:	December 18th, 2010, 07:18 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Town Heretic 'Cause everyone knows that gravity was invented by Newton. It'll come to you. 'betcha it won't. Destroy another fetus now, we don't like children anyhow, I've seen the future baby......... It is Murder : Leonard Cohen

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horiturk Over 1000 post club Posts: 1,086 Posts Per Day: 5.78 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fort Worth,Texas Rep Power: 2958 Other More right than left Slogan/motto: beware,lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.~Aesop Reputation:

December 18th, 2010, 10:49 AM LOL oh,such wit.....pal i believe in God,but no one has seen evidence that the God in the bible is actually real or is who he supposedly claimed to be. colliding galaxies do not speak to being designed,they seem to offer the evidence that God got the ball rolling and let everything else happen on its own.in other words God has not been seen interfering in the universe he created.when you can offer evidence of your christian beliefs then come back and talk to us.

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Son of Jack She argues more than I do... Posts: 3,621 Posts Per Day: 2.55 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: On the Road to Emmaus Rep Power: 45293 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: "Let me find you in loving you and love you in finding you." - Anselm Reputation:

December 18th, 2010, 11:56 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Town Heretic 'Cause everyone knows that gravity was invented by Newton. Wait... Quote: It'll come to you. "The Gospel offers God to me as a good, not simply as a fact. In embracing the good, I'm convinced of the fact." - Austin Farrer And here in dust and dirt, O here The lilies of His love appear "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question and he'll look for his own answers."

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 19th, 2010, 01:38 AM I am also fans of Hitler, by the way for his wits, for being cleaver, being an artist like I am, sneaking out of his house in his teen years since I did a high school book report on him, then a speech, and I made a persuasive argument to say that things would have been better had Hitler used his evil for good.

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:

December 19th, 2010, 02:09 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold I am also fans of Hitler, by the way for his wits, for being cleaver, being an artist like I am, sneaking out of his house in his teen years since I did a high school book report on him, then a speech, and I made a persuasive argument to say that things would have been better had Hitler used his evil for good. did he say that he was going to kill millions of Jews? well that is what he did it is what you do that counts not what you say or believe a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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Town Heretic Jack and Co. Posts: 15,164 Posts Per Day: 11.14 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Within a whisper of rivers... Rep Power: 446022 Christian More left than right Slogan/motto: "Great lunch! Who's up for a swim?" Famous Last Words, Vol. 12 Blog Entries: 9 Reputation:	December 19th, 2010, 09:53 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom did he say that he was going to kill millions of Jews? well that is what he did it is what you do that counts not what you say or believe He also wasn't much of an artist. His perspective was horrible (life imitating art?). "So finally we have something in common, neither of us appearing to understand what you mean." zoo:

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Rusha There Is No Such Thing as a *Pregnancy Leprechaun* Posts: 10,494 Posts Per Day: 8.22 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nebraska ... for now Rep Power: 169157 Other More left than right Slogan/motto: Reputation:

December 19th, 2010, 10:09 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold I am also fans of Hitler, by the way for his wits, for being cleaver, being an artist like I am, sneaking out of his house in his teen years since I did a high school book report on him, then a speech, and I made a persuasive argument to say that things would have been better had Hitler used his evil for good. These are poor reasons for being a fan of someone as evil as Hitler. It doesn't matter how talented, smart or how *kind* Hitler was capable of being. What matters is what he did during his lifetime on this planet. The man was a monster. “In a letter to Julia Ward Howe in 1873, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, the woman who shocked society, Mr. Speaker, by daring to leave her house proudly showing her pregnancy–because that was just not done–wrote: `When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women to treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit.’” ~ Rep. Jean Schmidt quoting Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 01:24 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Rusha These are poor reasons for being a fan of someone as evil as Hitler. It doesn't matter how talented, smart or how *kind* Hitler was capable of being. What matters is what he did during his lifetime on this planet. The man was a monster. and it matters what we do a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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Ask Mr. Religion Presbyterian (PCA) Posts: 5,026 Posts Per Day: 3.41 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chandler, AZ Rep Power: 256615 Protestant Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: http://www.doyouconfess.com Reputation:

December 20th, 2010, 01:50 AM JA is but a sad soul who has yet to master the difference between discussion and utterance. AMR __________________________________________________ ____________ Everyone is a Calvinist on their knees. Founder, Reformed Theology Institute Faculty, The North American Reformed Seminary I fear explanations explanatory of things explained. Christian, catholic, Calvinist, evangelical, Presbyterian (PCA). If your username appears in blue and you have over 500 posts: Why? __________________________________________________ ____________

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chrysostom CATHOLIC Posts: 24,933 Posts Per Day: 11.66 Join Date: Jun 2005 Rep Power: 456540 Catholic Right Winger Slogan/motto: the Truth will make you happy Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 02:06 AM you have to admire his energy and there are definite signs that he is cleaning up his act so he must be listening a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:42 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Rusha These are poor reasons for being a fan of someone as evil as Hitler. It doesn't matter how talented, smart or how *kind* Hitler was capable of being. What matters is what he did during his lifetime on this planet. The man was a monster. Are you not a monster. Romans 3:23

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:43 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom and it matters what we do Can you do what God does. Romans 3:23

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Town Heretic Jack and Co. Posts: 15,164 Posts Per Day: 11.14 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Within a whisper of rivers... Rep Power: 446022 Christian More left than right Slogan/motto: "Great lunch! Who's up for a swim?" Famous Last Words, Vol. 12 Blog Entries: 9 Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:43 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Are you not a monster. Romans 3:23 No. You shouldn't conflate messages. All sin requires grace. It doesn't follow that I should treat the child molester as I would someone who ran a red light. "So finally we have something in common, neither of us appearing to understand what you mean." zoo:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:44 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion JA is but a sad soul who has yet to master the difference between discussion and utterance. AMR Do you ever ever get sad. Romans 3:23

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:45 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom you have to admire his energy and there are definite signs that he is cleaning up his act so he must be listening The definition to cleaning is only a matter of opinion apart from God. Romans 3:23

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December 20th, 2010, 08:50 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Town Heretic No. You shouldn't conflate messages. All sin requires grace. It doesn't follow that I should treat the child molester as I would someone who ran a red light. Different sins have different consequences. If you have a lot of sin then you have a lot of consequences to those sins. If you have a little bit of sin then you got a little bit of consequences to those sins. But either one still makes you a monster. Romans 3:23 If it were all about just what we do then it would be possible to be perfect.

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 08:52 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Town Heretic No. You shouldn't conflate messages. All sin requires grace. It doesn't follow that I should treat the child molester as I would someone who ran a red light. Both are monsters and may burn in Hell either way. God will not let somebody into Heaven only because he had less sins.

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Town Heretic Jack and Co. Posts: 15,164 Posts Per Day: 11.14 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Within a whisper of rivers... Rep Power: 446022 Christian More left than right Slogan/motto: "Great lunch! Who's up for a swim?" Famous Last Words, Vol. 12 Blog Entries: 9 Reputation:

December 20th, 2010, 08:52 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Different sins have different consequences. No. The wages of sin is death. The only escape from that is found in grace. Different infractions of the law carry different penalties, but that's short of God's judgment and my point is that we aren't monsters in the sense that Hitler was, even if our sins require the same remedy. "So finally we have something in common, neither of us appearing to understand what you mean." zoo:

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:

December 20th, 2010, 09:04 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Town Heretic No. The wages of sin is death. The only escape from that is found in grace. Different infractions of the law carry different penalties, but that's short of God's judgment and my point is that we aren't monsters in the sense that Hitler was, even if our sins require the same remedy. The court of law will still see the guilty as monsters, no questions asked, unless if they are cleansed.

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December 20th, 2010, 09:24 AM Quote: Originally Posted by JoeyArnold Are you not a monster. Romans 3:23 Nope ... “In a letter to Julia Ward Howe in 1873, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, the woman who shocked society, Mr. Speaker, by daring to leave her house proudly showing her pregnancy–because that was just not done–wrote: `When we consider that women are treated as property, it is degrading to women to treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit.’” ~ Rep. Jean Schmidt quoting Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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JoeyArnold BANNED Posts: 3,826 Posts Per Day: 24.71 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Portland, OR Rep Power: 0 Christian More right than left Slogan/motto: With Oatmeal in my bowl, is Jesus in your soul? Reputation:	December 20th, 2010, 09:26 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Rusha Nope ... Are you a monster or were you a monster or can you be a monster. Romans 3:23

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December 20th, 2010, 09:27 AM Quote: Originally Posted by chrysostom pal joey until they ban him we have to deal with him and there is no way we are going to be able to ignore him thanks to Town Heretic for the idea so what do you think about joey? finally here is the attention that he deserves Who? Is there some reason we are supposed to know this person? In any event that is what theology sites are for....for people to discuss various theologies...anyone is just as welcome to do that here, and no it is not a prerequisite that you like them. keep shinin jerm Stop by any time...

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December 20th, 2010, 09:32 AM Quote: Originally Posted by jeremysdemo Who? Is there some reason we are supposed to know this person? In any event that is what theology sites are for....for people to discuss various theologies...anyone is just as welcome to do that here, and no it is not a prerequisite that you like them. keep shinin jerm If you don't already know me then I will come to you in your nightmares.

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