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| What is Blasphemy? - Today, 12:00 PM So I said "Lady Gaga could be Jesus' baby mama" and it was concidered 'intentional blasphemy' by moderators.
Isn't blasphemy speaking ill or rudly about a religious deity?
I mean my intention wasn't to be "rude" but to be nice and say that Jesus loved everybody, which he did.
PS. Just because I studied at a synagogue for a couple years doesn't make me an ill fit for this conversation.
The reason why I studied at the synagogue is becasue the churches wouldn't answer my questions and wouldn't help me.
Jews are great becasue they are open to any question.
you put 3 jews in a room and you get 5 opinions.
Its the best way to think because you can learn so much.
They excepted my idea that god isn't either good or evil but neutral and unconcious.
Through my own research and being outside of church docterines I was able to discover that nobody knows the exact truth. They just think they do.
I find it more evil to create wars to endocterinate people with religious views is more evil than being secular because the endoctrinators don't even know they are right. They just have "faith".
so now we have people like Ann Coulter that think endoctrinating Christianity is the best way, when she herself cannot verify whether many events in the Bible ever took place.
People are willing to follow blindly.
Well, I opened my eyes, and I was more at peace truly knowing that I don't know anything for sure than having faith in something that I don't know is sure. Thats just my opinion though. 
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| Today, 12:11 PM Quote: Originally Posted by warren clark  PS. Just because I studied at a synagogue for a couple years doesn't make me an ill fit for this conversation. | Normally that might be true but in your case it seems that strategy was a poor one. It turns out... you are a moron and are incapable of thinking like a rational human being. If you can't understand that saying "Lady Gaga I think would be Jesus' baby mama." is blasphemous there may be no hope for you.
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| Today, 12:17 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Knight Normally that might be true but in your case it seems that strategy was a poor one.
It turns out... you are a moron and are incapable of thinking like a rational human being. If you can't understand that saying "Lady Gaga I think would be Jesus' baby mama." is blasphemous there may be no hope for you. | It wasn't being rude... it was complimenting jesus, some people just don't have the same sense of humour. Plenty of people didn't mind it. Its just a matter of opinion. Some people just need to lighten up. Now if I said something vulger about Jesus then yeah that would be blasphemous. I won't give an example. I do have a sense of respect. 
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| Today, 12:21 PM
In the end blasphemy is just about getting your feelings hurt. I do have a sense of respect though and refrain from saying alot of what I wish to say.
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| Today, 12:35 PM Quote: Originally Posted by warren clark
In the end blasphemy is just about getting your feelings hurt. I do have a sense of respect though and refrain from saying alot of what I wish to say.
| Hey, Warren In many ways blasphemy is in the eye of the beholder but to be fair, this is a forum hosted by Evangelical Christians and we have to be sensitive to their feelings. Like, I know you didn't mean any harm by your exclamation but - regardless of your intent - it is definitely going to be offensive for most Evangelical Christians. One of the things that most impresses me about the management & moderators here at TOL is just how genuine and non-hypocritical they are. The way you "see" Jesus is a million light years away from how they see him. Having said all that... I don't think you're a moron and I totally love the Gaga thread, buddy! 
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| Today, 12:55 PM Blasphemy is whatever happens to offend the nearest religious authority at any given time.
Yeah. Have fun.
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| Today, 01:12 PM Blasphemy is to speak words against God. In any way.
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| Today, 01:16 PM Quote: Originally Posted by warren clark So I said "Lady Gaga could be Jesus' baby mama" and it was concidered 'intentional blasphemy' by moderators. | I was thinking that you might get some heat when I read that. This is actually how I interpreted what you said. If you were to imagine Jesus were alive to day and what Lady Gaga is doing is against what he would advise, I think it is safe to say that he spend time around someone like her in order to teach and guide than he would traditional theists. He certainly would be above driving the schism deeper between him and them like some theists ont his website seem keen to do between them and non-theists. Assuming they are right, then there is no need for Jesus to be around them teaching them. I understand the term baby mama to mean close friend that is a girl, not literally having his babies or anything like that. In the end, on this website, you just have to stand back and say to yourself "Self, if I were a right wing theist would I understand this the way a left winger or non-theists would?" Then you have your answer in regardless to how that statement will be treated on this website, by the moderators. If too long, didn't read; I agree with you in the sense that from what I've studied about Jesus, he would spend more time with someone like her to teach and guide her but I guess it is the use of slang that is blasphemous. Quote: | I mean my intention wasn't to be "rude" but to be nice and say that Jesus loved everybody, which he did. | I would agree, that is why I think he would spend more time with people who he knows are lost compared to others. Quote: | PS. Just because I studied at a synagogue for a couple years doesn't make me an ill fit for this conversation. | You're an unorthodox Jew? Quote: I find it more evil to create wars to endocterinate people with religious views is more evil than being secular because the endoctrinators don't even know they are right. They just have "faith".
so now we have people like Ann Coulter that think endoctrinating Christianity is the best way, when she herself cannot verify whether many events in the Bible ever took place.
People are willing to follow blindly.
Well, I opened my eyes, and I was more at peace truly knowing that I don't know anything for sure than having faith in something that I don't know is sure. [/color] | I hear you man, I've been preaching subjectivity on this website for over 4 years. Then people think I'm some sort of god hater or pyschopath. Such is how it goes but guys like us are the last people on this planet they need to fear.
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| Today, 01:21 PM Quote: Originally Posted by warren clark It wasn't being rude... it was complimenting jesus, some people just don't have the same sense of humour. | Calling a person a father of bastards is not a compliment  Wow. Just wow. Quote: | Now if I said something vulger about Jesus then yeah that would be blasphemous. I won't give an example. I do have a sense of respect. | You tell me how calling the central character of Christianity - the virgin-born Christ Jesus - a man who would father children on a woman not his wife is in any way either 1) saying that Jesus loved everyone (your first claim) or 2) a compliment (your second) Why not just say you're sorry instead of feigning good humor and accusing others of thin skin?
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| Today, 02:14 PM Quote: Originally Posted by warren clark
Through my own research and being outside of church docterines I was able to discover that nobody knows the exact truth. They just think they do.
| This sounds suspiciously like you are asserting an "exact truth". Or do you just think you do? 
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| Today, 02:18 PM Quote: Originally Posted by nicholsmom ...Why not just say you're sorry instead of feigning good humor and accusing others of thin skin? | Because of the root of his difficulty with God, NM. It's rather apparent when you read him broadly, wouldn't you say? 
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